A Kids Guide To Palmistry That Adults Will Love - PV Dai

Your hands are not a sentence, they are a story you can edit. We sit down with professional palmist and author Paula Victoria Dai to clear up the biggest palmistry myths, from the fear around the lifeline to the idea that a reading locks you into one fate. Palmistry, as Paula practices it, is a living study of lines, mounts, texture, and hand shape that reflects your energy, patterns, and choices, and it can change as you do. 

We also dig into why Paula’s first book, In Your Hands: Putting The Magic Back In Your Hands, A Kids Guide To Palmistry, is such a smart entry point for both kids and adults. Written for ages eight to twelve, it uses clear language, color illustrations, and practical exercises that make hand reading feel approachable, especially if you have bounced off older, denser palmistry books. Along the way, we talk about intuition in childhood, neurodivergent-friendly learning, and why ethical spiritual practice matters, including grounding, setting sacred space, and reading with care instead of ego. 

You will hear simple palmistry tests you can try right away, like noticing your thumb position for your current social battery and gently testing hand flexibility as a mirror for how you handle plans and control. Then we go deeper into what a palm reading can reveal about career transitions, passion projects, relationships, and personal power, plus how Paula stays grounded through ancestral practice, dream work, and reconnecting with Filipino folklore and protective traditions. 

If you enjoy thoughtful conversations about divination, palmistry, hand reading, intuition, and spiritual ethics, subscribe, share this with a curious friend, and leave us a review so more listeners can find the show.

Bio: Paula Victoria is the professional palmist and author behind P is for Palmistry. Paula learned palmistry at a young age from her grandmother and has grown her practice through virtual readings, events, markets and residencies in the Los Angeles Area. 

With over 25 years of palmistry practice and experience connecting with people through art curation, professional organizing, and her interior design studio, Paula’s readings are deeply focused. 

Her readings help others discover their own set of personal strengths and guide them through life transitions with ease, clarity, and confidence. Her first book In Your Hands: A Kids Guide to Palmistry is now available anywhere you buy books!

www.pisforpalmistry.com

@p.isforpalmistry on Instagram and TikTok

Transcript

Welcome And Book Reveal

GDC 0:01

Welcome to Belief Being and Beyond with your host Granddaughter Crow. Hey everybody, Granddaughter Crow here with yet another episode of Belief Being and Beyond. This is a clue of what we're gonna be doing today. Yes, we've got a handful of great information for you. Enough of the play on words. I gotta tell you, we have Paula Victoria Die here and her first book in your hands, right? A kid's guide to palmistry. It's hardcover, you guys, and it's so delicious. So let me tell you a little bit about Paula Victoria. Paula Victoria is the professional palmist and author behind P is for Palmistry. I always wondered. And it's Paula. So this is great. Paula learned palmistry at a young age from her grandmother and has grown her practice through virtual readings. Yeah, you guys, we can do virtual readings, events, markets, and residencies in the Los Angeles area with over 25 years of palmistry practice and experience connecting with people through art curation, professional organizing, and her interior design studio, Paula's readings are deeply focused. So she has not only this expertise, but a lot of lived experience too. Her readings help others discover their own set of personal strengths and guide them through life transitions with ease, clarity, and confidence. Like I said, her first book is In Your Hands, putting the magic back in your hands, A Kids Guide to Palmistry. It is available wherever you get your books. Of course, we love when you support local bookstores and metaphysical community bookstores. Go in there. If it's not on the shelf, just ask them. They can order it for you. So without further ado, let's bring on Paula Victoria.

PV Dai 2:26

Welcome to the show. Hello. Hello. Thank you so much for having me on. And thank you so much for the beautiful reminder of how my life has brought me to you guys today. That was beautiful. Thank you.

GDC 2:40

Absolutely. Well, you know, one of the things first, when I saw the cover, I was just like, my inner child needs that right now, you know. And so of course now you're on the show. But I saw the cover come out before the book even came out. And I'm like, Jenny, we've got to get her on the show. So one of the beautiful things, I mean, there's a lot of different divination practices. Um, most like right now, you see a lot of tarot, you see a lot of, you know, pendulums, you see a lot of different arts and crafts, but you don't see a lot of palmistry, even though it's really old, like so old we don't even know how old we're right. Because we've had hands, people. You know, we've had exactly we've had hands and curiosity for a long, long time. But what

Palmistry Myths And What It Is

GDC 3:30

I want to do first, uh Paula, is to demystify a little bit about palmistry, because even people, if you've never had your palm red, you may have heard, oh, don't let them see you because they'll tell you when you're gonna die because you're lifeline. Or they'll tell you that, you know, this is stone and it never changes, and you can't do anything about it once you hear what it's about, or that it's evil or whatever. And I'm so happy to have Paula on the show to demystify that. So can you talk just a little bit briefly about what it actually is?

PV Dai 4:11

Absolutely. Uh, and that's what I'm here for, too, in existence, to sort of squash any sort of um, you know, fatalistic preconceptions of palmistry. I think that it's a beautiful art and people should know about it and like bring it back, let's let's go. It's the time for it to shine. So palmistry is the study and the art of looking at the lines of your hands, the texture of your hands, the shape of your hands. And um, there's many names for it, but palmistry is the one I think that most people are familiar with. It is uh the study of, you can definitely look into the future. It I see it as the study of who you are as a person. Um, the way that I look at palmistry, and you know, a lot of other people will look at palmistry, is that the left and the right mean something different. The lines, the mounts of your hand. So I know if you're watching the video of this, you can see that different levels of my hand or your hand have heights and valleys. Um all of that means something in palmistry and in everyone's individual study. Um, palmistry is a really old, old, as you mentioned, um, is a very old practice. We don't even know how long it's been around, but the first written history of palmistry was about 4,000 years ago in um India and then China. So there's a little bit conflicting written data, you know, how writing history goes. So uh there's a little bit of conflicting data, and there's different ways of studying it in different cultures, but there's always been this rich practice of exploring what's in the hands and um using it for different modalities, so healing arts and um you know, healing practices in different cultures. In China, it was actually used as a signature of the emperor, so they would use his thumbprint to sign documents because everyone has a different thumbprint, you can't replicate it. So uh I've always thought that was fascinating. And uh, and of course, as time went on, it um, you know, came to the West, quote unquote, um, through um different different modalities. The Roma have a very strong palmistry practice and used it as they traveled, and so that's how it spread through Europe. And that I I believe is a very different um way of looking at the palms than than I do. That's not how I personally learned, but um it's a very deep and and historic practice in itself. And then it became in in the US at least, and I believe in England, it became sort of a a celebrity favorite practice at parties, and that's how it became you know, um, this fantastical, sort of exciting practice people wanted to find, at least in the in the way that we see it today, there's photographs at parties of celebrities getting their palm read. And um, so there's been this ebb and flow of a palmistry practice, but we can see even before written history that palmistry was a practice because in cave paintings people would stamp their hands on walls and you would find that. And we can only guess really what what it was about, what it was for, but obviously people were noticing their hands, they were using their hands, utilizing their hands to make things and to grow things, and and there's a lot of energy that goes into that. It's it's all about the energy.

Why Your Lines Can Change

GDC 7:35

So I love it, and so it's not it changes, it's not written in stone, right? Could you just talk a little bit about that? Because I know that you were like um the idea that the left hand is kind of what you were born with, the roadmap, or like I like to see it, the topography of the lay of the lands, right? The the little lines, and then you've got the mounds, and you've got, you know, and then the other hand, the right hand, it so it it changes. Could you talk just a little bit about about that? Yeah.

PV Dai 8:08

Yeah, absolutely. So the left hand, as you mentioned, uh, in the way I practice is what you're born with. I see it as definitely like um your life plan. It's what before you come into this world where you decide how you're gonna learn the lessons you're gonna learn. And then your right hand is what you have made of your life. So I like to joke that it's all the ways you decided that this is not what you felt like doing. So your right hand is what you make of your life and and where you are today. So a lot of times in shorter readings, let's say I'm at a market or I'm at an event and I'm doing like a 10-15 minute reading, we're kind of just touching the surface of things. I look at the right hand because that's who I'm meeting that day. So if they have a question for me or they just want to know basics, you know, of uh what I can see in a quick period of time, I'll look at the right hand. Um and your hands do change, they change with every decision you make. You might not see the change right away. There's things that change faster than other things on the hand, so lines, mounts, all of that. The only thing that doesn't change are your um fingerprints, which is why it was used as signatures. That's why we you know we get our fingerprints taken for things. Um, so um with with the lines, I give people sort of a time frame of doing birthday readings or holiday readings or solstice readings, some sort of holiday, if it's a couple's reading, anniversary readings. Um, and I know it's it's a really sweet way of tracking where your relationship and where you're going individually and all of that. And so uh one year is a good period of time if you're someone that has a lot of change going along on, a lot of growth going on. Uh, the soonest I've seen big changes in lines is three months, and and that's um some a dear friend that I've read a lot and was going through a lot of career transitions and and ideas were coming about. So if you're going through times where there's a lot of change, your lines might change more. If you're in a period of time where you're you're stable in a sense that you're continuing the same activities and you're around the same people every day, your lines might change less. So uh it really depends.

Writing For The Inner Child

GDC 10:13

I love that. And then, moreover, this is written for what age group did you have in mind when you wrote it? And keeping in mind that I am that age group, whatever you say, because my inner child is loving this. What age group is it written for?

PV Dai 10:33

I love that you mentioned inner child because that's who I wrote it for. I I channeled myself because I was that kid who wanted to sit in the bookstore and learn about every that's how I really learned details about palmistry. Uh so we aimed for the book to be written for eight to twelve-year-olds. But that being said, I think it's really been received well for all ages, especially adults. I feel like palmistry has become so inaccessible in learning, or it's become so um, I don't know why the world word ethereal is coming to mind, but it's become sort of like this uh very heavily intuitive practice and harder to sort of grasp physically. So, in writing it for my inner child and for all of our inner ch children, right? Um, I think that the language was meant to be simplified for all ages.

GDC 11:22

I love it. And just one more point, and then I'm gonna see if Ginny has any questions, because I know she's excited about the book too. What I when I was looking at the book and reading the book and and looking at what you're doing, I was like, that is a prime age for our intuition as children prior to us being shamed or shut down for our own intuitive gifts. So this is giving them a tool to encourage and empower that inner child or your young ones, you know, pick up this book, it makes a great present. Plus, it's a heck of a lot of fun and cute and all of that. But it I think that it's really beautiful that you found a way to be able to share divination, curiosity um to that age group because that age group, they're still open, right? They're still open. So I just wanted to give you a thumbs up, my emperor thumbs up print. Thank you. Thank you.

PV Dai 12:29

I will take the thumbs ups. I appreciate that. Yeah, I think it's important for people to have toolkits and to really understand um where they stand and what powers they have, you know, or or how they can um utilize a power that they have to do something they want to do. And I always, when I do readings, people, this is what's so hard about seeing things on TikTok and online. You see that things are one way and you see that things are again set in stone, or you see um, oh, like there's a writer's triangle. If I don't have it, I'm not I'm not a writer. That answers my question about trying to write this book, right? Right. Um, but there's so many ways you can arrive to something, and there's so many ways you can use palmistry as a tool. So thank you for bringing that up. That that it is a tool, and that um, you know, I think eight to twelve, you're in this world, you're a little bit more grounded, but you're not yet shut off, and you're not yet, you know, uh so it it's it is, it feels like a sweet spot almost where where you start to learn how to read more. You're you're definitely more confident in picking up more books. You can wrap your head around more concepts. And and um what I love about Palmistry, and what I love about how um Alyssa, the illustrator of the the book, brought to life is that you can kids can see themselves and you can see themselves in the books through uh she has characters for all of the uh elements, and there's um illustrations showing you how to flex your hand back and and all of that. So it was really brought to life for that age, but I feel like that's something that um might make it easier for adults to to approach, um seeing them seeing yourself in in in the characters in the book and and um the nature elements in the book.

Kids Learn Fast With Visuals

GDC 14:12

I love it. I love it. So what do you want to ask for, Jenny?

Jenny 14:17

Well, I wanted to share because we're sharing about the prime age group is eight to twelve. I have an 11-year-old, and so I've had the book for a while, and he caught me reading it, and then he took it, and then he's like, I'm gonna read everyone's palms. So he has read the whole family, including me. I love that. Oh, I wonder Yeah, I want you to know, like it really is that age group because he felt confident to just take it on his own, and then he's making us flex our hands and show our hands, and he read the whole family, and he has really like picked it up very quickly because again, yeah, like that age group, their neuroplasticity is off the hook. So they can learn like anything. And so I feel like his he's gonna, he's like halfway through the book, he's gonna probably finish it, and then he'll be like our resident palm reader. I love that. Oh, we're bringing it back. That's beautiful.

PV Dai 15:09

I'm so glad that it was easy to go through the book because I know at the beginning I was like, how can you use this book? There's like a whole section, and and uh I wanted it to be open for all kinds of learners, you know. Not everyone wants to go page by page. Sometimes you want to jump around and that's totally fine. Uh so the book was made for that. The book was made for exploring it, however, and and I'm so glad that he's making his way through um, you know, page by page. It's really fun.

Jenny 15:35

Yeah, and for people that you know are listening and maybe not seeing it, the book is really well illustrated and the information is chunked. And I'm a former school teacher, I uh you know, focus on neurodivergence. So I think this book is good for like adults for lots of reasons. Okay, but the number one reason is I think a lot of us learn better through these visuals and the chunking of information because I brought two examples of some classic pomistry books, how to read hands and language of the hand. And these books are actually really hard to learn from. And then the the pictures are not helpful because it's old anyway. So this book is illustrated in color. There's it's very easy to follow. I was learning until it got taken from me. We need to get you another copy. And then I will finish it when he's done, I think. But I was curious about your grandmother.

Grandmother Lessons In The Garden

Jenny 16:48

So your grandmother is the one that passed this down to you, and I would love to know more about that because I loved both of my grandmothers and they were so influential on like all of my life. And so I love that you talked about that in here. And yeah, if you could tell us a little more about that, I'd be happy to hear it.

PV Dai 17:04

Definitely. So my I have to preface this with my grandmother was not a palm reader. That was not what she did. I grew up in a very superstitious Catholic Filipino family, and so Jenny, I know you can relate to that a little bit with the Catholicism and and all of that. And uh, so my grandmother, we found out after she had passed away, called on this woman to the to our home in the Philippines often, more often than we thought. So um there she was sort of like the neighborhood witch, I uh is how my family words it. Um and and it's not something my family talks about a lot. Like that's that part of my family is like we go when we're in the Philippines, we go to church every Sunday, and um, you know, we don't even talk about mystical Filipino terms or anything. Like I've learned all that on my own. So it's funny that my my mom's oldest sister, she um she described that my grandmother would call on this woman to come to for family entertainment almost, and she would do only two house calls a day, and that was the expense of her energy, you know, and and you know, reading takes so much energy. So I was like, okay, I understand that part. And so she would come to the house and read people's fortunes, and anyway, you know, I know that there were cards involved and and palm reading involved and mediumship and everything, and it sounded like a fun family affair, and I have a big family in the Philippines, so everyone would come to the house and do this, but then no one really understood where my Lola learned um palm reading, and so my aunt said, Oh, she actually was at the house a little bit more than we all saw as a family. Like I think she saw her um there probably for some secret guidance and maybe some love spells here and there is my speculation, um, you know, with the family drama and stirring the pot. So um I believe that she learned from this woman in the Philippines who I've yet to find. I'm hoping that maybe some some way, somehow, someone will be like, I know exactly who this is, or I had the same experience in the same neighborhood. We've yet to find her. But with that, my grandmother learned um Palmistries. She was also a little bit curious with astrology and you know, all of this, and and uh my grandmother in uh encouraged my intuition in ways without saying it was intuition. So one of the ways she would say is when the phone was ringing, when there were landlines and it was in the on the kitchen wall, she would say, Okay, so who's calling us right now, Paula? And she would have me guess who is calling, and um and you know, I I would say like nine out of ten times, or like guess what number we're thinking of, and things like that. And so I think part of it was games now that I have a daughter, and like, okay, I know that there's a lot of distraction and keeping people involved, but but I also think she's something in me that she didn't see in some of my other cousins and nieces and nephews, where um she also painted and would teach them that, but didn't really quite teach them the intuitive side of things. So she taught me Palmistry in the garden, uh, which I talk about in the book a little bit, a little summary of it. We had um a big garden growing up. Um, being connected to nature was really always very big with my family. It's a big part of Filipino um animism uh traditionally, you know, pre-colonial practice, and I think that's something that's continued onward. Um, and uh we we have had a lush rose garden. She had 27 varieties of roses in our garden. We had an apple tree and a pond with fish in it, and um, you know, it wasn't a huge garden, but we we crammed it all in there and a lot of succulents, and we were constantly repotting, we were constantly looking at leaves and flowers, and and I was learning about all of that. And then um, you know, we were in the kitchen a lot as well, but in between the potting when, you know, she had to rest, and uh, my mom's her youngest um by far, and so she was on the older side of being a grandmother. She would rest and we would sit a little bit and take a break from repotting because it's hard work, and we would talk about the hand, and um, she would look at my hand and say, you know, this is your lifeline, and um this is this is the love line, and say things like, Oh, it looks, you know, maybe you'll be a doctor one day, which that's very funny. That's the hope I think of every Filipino grandma that everyone is a doctor or a nurse, but um like I think she sees me now from up there and is like, Thank goodness you're not. Um she would look at the lines and teach me those basics, and then we would talk about you know textures of the hand and you know, things like that. So she wasn't teaching me every single detail, but it really planted the seeds of Palmistry. And that's where I learned to sort of um get to know people in that way. And it was a really fun way to understand people and under and and compare ourselves to nature again. I think that's something a lot of people People are have lost and are trying to find again is that connection. So that's why in the book a lot of it is compared to it's already elemental, but part um part of what I wanted to bring back in that is how being in the garden and learning about palmistry in the garden especially was really, really big for me and um helped me really grasp that concept of comparing the lines to rivers and comparing finer lines to maybe the veins in a leaf, and um and uh the way that fire changes and expands and contracts. And so um it was really beneficial in my learning, and um and I think it says a lot about how she thought too, outside of how she in in the in a time where she was told that you needed to be married and support your family and um and be in the home, um, explore outside of that and connect to something bigger than that.

GDC 22:56

We honor your grandmother here on the show. You know what I think happened. This is just in my humble opinion. I think she went down the street to that lady, and the lady was like, that little Paula Victoria, you need to. I think that's what happened. That's my humble opinion. But and I love that I love that you're like, uh, the seeds of palmistry got planted in the garden by my grandmother. I'm like, how poetic.

PV Dai 23:28

I don't even think about it like that, but I'm like, yeah, absolutely. I think of it as seeds planted. I I think that we're uh I do a lot of nature references and a lot of delicious food references when I talk about palmistry, but um I think the garden in particular and and the way that things grow and and change um is really important for for kids, especially to understand the cycle of life and and and how that works so you know, you see it immediately. And and um now that we're planting our own garden and and I have my own little one and I see how she interacts with things, it's it's so cool. Because I I when I started writing the book, uh we we didn't even think about kids yet. And when the book came out, I already had a little one. So I was like the timing was perfect. It was, you know, it took a little bit longer than we thought for the book to come out, and but it was the exact perfect timing in which it needed to come out.

GDC 24:18

So the all of that was in your hands, is what you're telling me. Yes, absolutely. I love it, I love it.

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GDC 24:29

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Ethics And Setting Sacred Space

GDC 25:02

I love it. You know what else I I need to highlight about this is that you are also showing ethics. You're breaking it down to like this is how you set sacred space. Open a window, like the consciousness and the understanding of set your tone and the connection between you know, friends and don't be angry. And you're setting up these ethics for any spiritual work already, and the way you do it is just so adorable because you talk about peanut butter and jelly. You know, I mean I just wanted to give you another thumbs up, two thumbs up for that, because I think that that's one of the things that is vitally important prior to learning any modality, irregardless of what age you are, is learn those ethics and things like that. So yeah.

PV Dai 26:03

Thank you. Thank you for recognizing that. Uh that I I think it in in general, and what I was seeing in readings, but also in the time in which I started writing the book was um like pandemic time, and uh everyone was at home and people were trying to pick up things, and it was the start of people putting their practices really actively online on Instagram, on TikTok, and all of that. And I think kids pick that up so quickly and they think that's what happens. Like they think that that what they see is reality, and it was really important for me to have a tangible place where that knowledge was put, where kids could pick it up and see that there's more to what you're seeing. It's not about making it aesthetic, it's not about um, you know, uh making a complicated ritual for something. I I it it and it's something that we could learn, but I I wanted it to be in an accessible place where you're learning about a specific practice that that could bridge to other practices um because grounding is so important, you know, and and setting the tone for a reading is absolutely important. I think that that's what I hope is the biggest takeaway from the book. Yes, there's there's things that are that are fun for kids to do, like flexing the hand or learning about the process of energy through peanut butter and and jelly sandwiches. And um, I want to make it fun and accessible, but yes, absolutely. I think that um the ethics behind it is important and something that I don't want I don't think anyone wants to get lost in the process of things becoming more um tech and more in a way more removed from nature, but I think now you can start seeing that there's a a wish for more of that again, more of natural elements and things, yeah.

GDC 27:52

Absolutely. So what else, Jenny? What else do you think?

How The Book Came To Life

Jenny 27:56

I had a like I was curious um that it's just my nature, but I was curious why you wrote it for kids. Like I love that it's for kids, but I'm telling everyone, no matter how old you are as a child, you could be an 80-year-old child to get this book. Because I have I have never learned palmistry before. I've tried through different things, and then this book I was like, oh, I get it.

PV Dai 28:20

So yeah, I I I'm glad I I'm glad it was for kids. It was never it was sort of a full circle story, I think. Like I'm glad that it ended up being for kids. I connected with the um publisher Moondust Press on Instagram and um through a cute uh little like like friend pickup joke in private messages where they have a book called See is for Coven and it's a board book for kids, and it's it's also very cute. You should also get that book. And uh it breaks down different practices and rituals in like an ABC fashion. And I didn't have the book, and I jokingly messaged them, Oh, it's P for Palmas Tree, because that's my Instagram handle, and that's the very start of the business. And they were like, Oh, actually, it's not, but I meant to reach out to you. And so we started our relationship on um Instagram and we're messaging, and then that's where the idea of the book came about. And um Andy from Moondust Press had the idea for the children's book because we had been seeing uh astrology for kids. There, they also have a wonderful um book, Tarot Deck Mess um by Sarah Beck. That's uh tarot for kids, and uh there wasn't anything specifically for palmistry, there were bits and pieces in other books. There are palmistry books, but not directly for kids, and so um that's where it all started. And I put together a draft and a proposal, and we we continued the conversation and then connected with Alyssa Marie, the illustrator. So all of it was words first, and I wrote it, and I just I wrote I wrote from a place that was very healing. I think for me it ended up being a very healing practice where I wrote it for little Paula before the world told me, you know, you can't do that for work, you're not gonna make money doing that, you're not gonna um, you know, that's not a job, or that's that's um not something someone finds attractive, right? And I wrote it for for her. And uh little Paula wanted to be an author. And so I thought that was like the perfect roundabout. I wanted to be a writer. I grew up uh reading all the fantasy books, um, like Tolkien and um other books I won't mention because I'm a little upset about them right now. But um I I um wrote um read a lot. I was the kid who wrote um read books at recess, wrote stories at recess, and um it was my recharge time instead of like playing on the playground. I wanted that time to learn and grow. And so I'm really grateful and it ended up being for kids. And I think in coming from a place where I it was written by my inner child, I would say, uh, I think that's what made I hope that's what makes it accessible for everyone's inner child. Because um growing up, it I don't think that it was super accessible. At least I grew up in the suburbs in Houston and Texas, and so the the extent of what I got was what it was on the Barnes and Noble shelf at my local bookstore, you know. And uh and I would always hope I would find something new and find something cool and sit there while you know mom was shopping. And um and I wanted that book to be a book someone could find in that same position of I'm curious, I want to learn more. What can I find today when I go out? Or when I'm Googling it now on on the internet to find a fun book for kids' activities as a parent, right? Um so um yeah, it's it's weird now that it's available everywhere and it's online. That's it's not really going into the bookstore as much, but I hope that you do. I hope that you go to your local bookstore and and support um and find a book there. But um, but yeah, that's sort of a long-winded version of how it came to be a kid's book. It's not something that I um birthed the idea of, but I was so, so happy to say yes and take it on. Um, and I think it was perfect timing.

GDC 32:23

I love that. I mean, here at Belief Being and Beyond, you literally have authors interviewing authors. So we love the process of how the heartbeat of the human race, which is what I define as creators, authors, artists, how that process is because it's unique to every everyone. Um, so tonight, you guys, we are sitting down with Paula Victoria and her newest book, In Your Hands, Kids Guide to Palmistry. Check her out. P is for Palmistry.com and on social media, IG and TikTok, P dot is for Palmistry, right? And follow, follow, follow, because you've got a lot of things. Okay, so I want to show an exercise or like how big something is. Like, what

Two Easy Palmistry Tests

GDC 33:20

can our what can we take away? All the listeners, what can we take away about a little bit more about the self-knowledge or be able to fascinate our friends, you know, at the next picnic or whatever.

PV Dai 33:32

Yeah. Um, okay, what's a fun one? Okay, something that's very, very simple, beginner level, don't have you don't have to have any palmice tree knowledge. Something I like to do with sitters is especially if if someone's sitting down and I can tell that they're a little bit nervous or you know, they've never done this before, or maybe they had an intense conversation and they came to sit down for a reading to get them in the zone, is you can just shake your hands out like this, get all the energy flowing and moving and grooving and all of that. It gets you sort of forgetting about whatever's going on outside too, and then just hold your hands up naturally however they show up. And so, however your thumbs are positioned is where you're feeling socially at the time. So, not to call anyone out, right? But the closest, the closer you are to your index finger, your Jupiter finger, the less social you're feeling, the more you probably want to recharge. You're kind of done talking, I know. And then the further out, the more ready you are to party. So, you know, because it's evening or you know, post-lunch, or whenever you're watching this, you might be like this because you're like, I need to recharge, right? And it changes the most throughout the day because it's your thumb flexibility. Sometimes people have naturally resting thumbs that go this big, sometimes they're this big. So you can see if someone's introverted, you know, um, extroverted, omniverted, however, whatever they're called now, there's all the the inverteds. And yeah, and you can um you can tell by that. Um, and then another super easy beginner thing is it's in the book as well, but how flexible you are. So you can just take your hand and then turn it sideways like this, and as far as you can go back comfortably, right? Shows how flexible you are of a person, let's say with making plans. Are you someone that likes to schedule? Are you someone that likes to be on the fly with things? And so if it goes all the way back like this, you could be a little bit more flexible. Yeah, it's also physically flexible, right? But then it's flexible in terms of like I liked my schedule this sort of way, and it can it can also change the most, right? Maybe you're in a time period where you want more control. Maybe you um are okay being a little more flexible and going with the flow. But if it's um, you know, less flexible up like this, um, you you might want a little bit more control in your life and the moment. And then if it's um, you know, and you should also know like where you naturally stand, right? Because everyone is more flexible than others. And then this is also give or take if you have any sort of hand or wrist injury. Please don't hurt yourself doing this. But um, if it go, if your hand goes back way farther, you're okay with being a little bit more flexible at the time. Um, so I can say just from you seeing me flex my hand, I'm not a flexible person. I would like to be. I am a planner girly, and I like to plant everything, and I'm learning to be flexible.

Jenny 36:25

So Yeah, I will say my son did that test, and his was like so flexible over the top, and he's like the most go with the flow Gemini guy. I love that. And so I was like, that's spot on, buddy. Like you are, he's the most flexible out of the whole house, and his hand was literally the most flexible, most bendable. So it totally fit.

PV Dai 36:44

I love that. Do you know since he since he's already started the book, does he know uh he's read everyone what hand type he is, like what elemental?

Jenny 36:52

He's an air hand. And he determined I was a water hand. I don't know the other two family members, but yeah.

PV Dai 36:59

Amazing determining it. Oh, I love that. A flexible air hand. It's a lot of uh conversation. Oh my god, chatting.

GDC 37:09

I love it. And listeners, if you want to find out what element your hand is, pick up In Your Hands by Paula Victoria. Woo woo! So, did you have any other questions that burning questions that you wanted to ask Jenny?

What You Can Learn In Readings

Jenny 37:29

Yeah, so I'm curious. Like you talked about people get readings like maybe yearly or things like that. Um, I'm curious for all of our listeners and people that are interested, like what exactly will they learn in a reading from you? So they can just kind of know like the different, I'm sure there's different options and there's probably different time lengths, but I would love for people to know, you know, ahead of time, like what do you get out of palmistry and what can you learn and what can be seen? Um, because it's very different from like all the other divinations. And I love that. Like I love that it's so different because you know, if you get an astrology reading, that's pretty much set in the stars, it's gonna change day to day, but that's very set. You get a tarot reading, that's gonna change tomorrow. So I'd love to know more about Palmistry. Absolutely.

PV Dai 38:17

So no matter how long or short my readings are with a sitter, I tell them that um my readings are all about your personal powers, what makes you you, and how you can use that to get to where you want to go, use it as a as a map, as a plan, or just appreciate where you sit today and where you are today and use it as a little ego boost. So um some of the things you can learn are transitions in life. You know, if you're looking to change your job, start a new job, uh, if you are single as a Pringle, as I've heard a lot this year, are you gonna meet someone soon, or should you focus on yourself and your work and grow your life that way and see who comes your way? Um, you can also learn where you are energetically uh just by simply looking at how deep the lines in your hand are that day compared to how they might usually be. Uh, because every hand type has different depth of lines, but you can check that just energy. Uh, if you ask, you can also see health in the hands. I typically don't lean towards health. I don't, you know, put that on people, but it is like a good validation if you're going through some sort of healing or or diagnosing process, and you just want some external validation of, you know, you're not, you're not nuts, right? Like there's something going on there. Um, so you can see all of that. I would say my favorite, um, I know some people love, love readings. I love um career and passion project readings, anything like that, any sort of personal power readings where you can see what's coming next. Um, you know, should I continue working at my job right now? Should I, is it now time to launch my business? Uh, when am one are periods where I'm gonna learn? I just got laid off. When am I gonna find my next job? Um, so anything like that, or or what what is something I can dip my toes in to add to my resume? So um sort of like a little career counselor palm reader. But yeah, it's it's always fun.

GDC 40:19

Those are like the top big three for most people who come to see any type of oracle or divination. They want to know about love and romance, relationships, they want to know about career and finance, and they want to know about health and well-being. And then it also, like you were saying, shows personality types and how you might approach something. So here's a question for you.

Ancestors Dreams And Deities

GDC 40:45

So the end result is a palm reading. But what other modalities, if any, do you utilize as a part of your practice for reading?

PV Dai 40:59

That is a really good question. I don't think anyone's ever asked that. Um, so in a reading, I keep it to palm reading. I don't bring in cards, I don't um, you know, uh like maybe sometimes astrology, I'll bring in astrology just to, you know, compare and see how that might show up in the hand. Uh, a lot of people who are Leos have very strong Jupiter fingers. So things like that. Like, I'm number one, look at me. Um, and I say that very lovingly, I'm a Leo rising, but um, in my personal practice to get grounded on my way to like, let's say, an event or a market, or if I have a private reading, or if I have an online reading, um, I have a very deep ancestral practice. And so um I work with my ancestors a lot, and um I communicate with them daily. I and I know that looks different for different people. Um for me, something that's been really big, something that's big, especially when I go to markets or if I have a big reading day, uh, I uh like to listen to music, and a lot of times my messaging from ancestors comes through songs, and sometimes they're hilarious. A lot of times they're your classic Filipino karaoke music, because I like to imagine them in the in the garden um singing karaoke at a big party. They're so loud. Um, they're loud and they love love, so they're the ones that are prying and asking the love questions if I bring it up in a reading, and so they they hang out with me in a reading, and um, you know, I ask for guidance in that way. So I would say that's my biggest biggest practice. I'm starting to get into and learn more about um deity um practice and connection. Um I have a friend Alex who's very knowledgeable and learning about and growing practice um with um Filipino gods and goddesses, uh, and it's something that um has been sort of lost um and so is is coming back. So I'm I'm dipping my toes in that. And um I do a lot of dream work as well. Um so a lot of dream work, ancestral work. Um I uh I have personal altars at home, um, and um our garden is becoming one. And um, like we're outdoor taking care of that again. And now that we have a bigger, we moved recently, have an outdoor, bigger outdoor space. We really um put a lot of love and respect into that. Um yeah, yeah, I would say that those are those are other modalities.

GDC 43:37

I love that. So it looks like we're starting to get to the top of the or the bottom of the hour, the top of the hour, the end, so to speak. Um, Jenny, what other questions or thoughts do you have um so that we can make sure that we get the full scope of everything that we can. to put it in this little beautiful nutshell or in your hand.

Jenny 44:05

Yeah,

Filipino Folklore And Protection

Jenny 44:06

so I liked how you were talking about ancestral work and learning more about Filipino uh deities. I know that the Philippines is very rich in myths and folklore. So do you have an does that connect at all to your practice? And if so, could you talk a little bit about that?

PV Dai 44:24

I'm learning more about it now. I grew up with some of it. There's a lot of um it's by a lot of children's songs and a lot of probably because of you know myth and and um and stories and everything um passed on um about fruits and vegetables. And so that's been something I've been finding joy in. There are a lot of you know like aswangs are so big culturally now I feel like you hear about um aswangs and um uh different creatures I think but now that I'm into it more there's a lot of lore about um how certain fruits have come to be like how the mango came to be or how um the pineapple one has always really stuck with me it's like um a mother-daughter relationship um of how the mango came to be I mean not the mango the pineapple came to be and so um yes and no I think that it's something I'll I'll pass on to my little one it's something that I'll continue to learn and and to learn about um and there are actually yes that not so much in my reading practice but in my personal practice um and uh she's gonna listen to this like 10 years from now and be like mom but um my little one is not a great sleeper and so there are a lot of theories in Filipino practice and I'm sure that it's you know a lot of cultures where um there's practices you should do if little ones can't sleep and reasons why they can't sleep like there are spirits that come around 6 p.m every night and so they're extra sensitive. So before bedtime you should have a ritual and um there's certain things you should keep by their bed. So I have tried all of it because some you get desperate after a certain point and you will try anything. But I think there's some truth to it because I do believe that certain times of the day we're more susceptible to spirits and to beings and I do believe that our little ones are not quite grounded yet. They're not quite tethered and so they can experience these things a lot more you know um and more openly not really more but they are more open to it and more susceptible to it. So there's a lot of protective practices that have made it through colonization and have become just sort of you know folk practices I guess is the way you can look at it. But they've um made their way under the radar and still exist today. One of them is keeping garlic by the bed as protection from aswang. And um also I think I've heard um like bells we use bells a lot at home um and that was um I think more ancestral knowledge um that was something that was given to me of of using bells as a practice of clearing energy and space and I know a lot of people do that but we use that as a practice and my daughter loves sound and music so um it it resonates with her a lot. We have fun with it.

GDC 47:29

I love that so when you guys go and buy this and gift it to the curious inner child or to the curious younger person buy a bell with it because yes buy a little bell because that's also how you can clear energy I love that okay so we love to ask a final question to everybody all of our guests and see how they respond.

What Lies Beyond The Veil

GDC 48:03

Are you ready for the final question? I'm ready.

PV Dai 48:06

Okay ask the final question okay totally open-ended what do you think lies beyond oh what do I think lies beyond I love this question I do a lot of dream work and with that I've been learning there's a lot of astral work and a lot of multi-dimensions that go with it. So I believe that everyone has their own world right in the dream world but I believe part of that is what's beyond right like that is our existence in this physical plane exists and I think a lot of it has to do with what we dream about as well of what's beyond. I think that's kind of where we go when we leave our bodies when we sleep if you leave your bodies when you sleep um so I think that there are places that we create for our own consciousness to process and I think if you go uh peel the onion further and go beyond that there are specific places where you can meet other souls right and there's sort of like these stations um where you can meet and greet and learn and communicate um and um and I think that there are walls we can cross if you go even further and find new dimensions and new spaces and and new versions of yourself. So very open-ended I think on my end as well but that's something that I've really been diving into personally.

GDC 49:33

So thank you for asking that um I think that that's just a little bit of what's beyond there's a lot more I think I love that you correlated it with dream time as well and multi-dimensional and the idea of stations and you know being able to meet other people agreed upon uh people oh yeah something my daughter is introduced to me actually in dreaming because we've been trying I've been trying to to meet her and see what this is all about the sleeping situation so um kids are so gifted um and connected so yes yeah I I love that oh my goodness Paula Victoria die in P is for Palmistree follow also pick up your copy in your hands it is an empowering book it also encourages self-knowledge self-exploration as well as connecting with other people in a very graceful ethical way getting to know everybody so thank you so much Paula of course Ginny everybody loves Ginny on the show

Final Takeaways And Goodbyes

GDC 50:50

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